对红山文化没有定论的定论才是对红山文化的崇敬[理]

蓬莱九仙

以下是引用特爱红山在2007-3-20 20:02:00的发言：

     有些专家的说法相对较保守，也有他们的道理。因为有博物馆藏少量实物参照，所以对红山玉的形制判断只能是小范围的判断，数量也是依据到目前的出土征集数量而言，所以才有前番说法。但任南老师的藏品数量是国家馆藏的几十倍，形态万千，基本上就是大全了，且专研红山数十年，经验丰富，总结出的12条鉴定方法，可以说是至尊法门，专家的浅显说法自然不能相提并论。

    事物总在不断发展，相信随着时间的推移，会有更多形式与数量的红山玉器与大家见面。

    另外，大家还是以治学与钻研文化为目的，何必非要争长论短，事实胜于一切，不实说法会不攻自破的。现在，只要到过本网站的，相信再到其他网站去，也就是去看看赝品是什么模样罢了。

     祝任南网越办越好，

用事实来讲话，用科学做依据，不服你也得服．

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nj-njj

最初见过红山玉器后感觉：如果这是真的，先祖们是什么世界？外星人雕像＼面具，各种龙形，这是一个唯物无神论者无法接受的世界．．．．．．所以大家不要见怪啊，愤慨啊，问题不是没有被发现，而是不愿被接受而已．

名利可以是人生存的目标，但不是治学的态度，为图一时之利可以毁掉一世清明－－－－劝某些认为就３００件红山的专家．

hongzhi

以下是引用nj-njj在2007-3-27 2:18:34的发言：

最初见过红山玉器后感觉：如果这是真的，先祖们是什么世界？外星人雕像＼面具，各种龙形，这是一个唯物无神论者无法接受的世界．．．．．．所以大家不要见怪啊，愤慨啊，问题不是没有被发现，而是不愿被接受而已．

名利可以是人生存的目标，但不是治学的态度，为图一时之利可以毁掉一世清明－－－－劝某些认为就３００件红山的专家．

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特爱红山

      专家 仅凭几件东西就下定律，显然有些不妥，红山文化区域之广，年代之久远，就是再过千年，也肯定会有不解之迷，从辨证的角度看，也不符合道理。

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红山珍宝

以下是引用特爱红山在2007-3-28 19:21:58的发言：
      专家 仅凭几件东西就下定律，显然有些不妥，红山文化区域之广，年代之久远，就是再过千年，也肯定会有不解之迷，从辨证的角度看，也不符合道理。

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enlinw

任南先生提出的鉴别红山古玉的12字诀和6种辅助方法，即任氏鉴定法（RNM）为我们提供了独有的技术诀窍。本人经过研究、比较、体会，认为是非常可靠的。该套方法自成体系，已经现代高科技测试证明。其符合辩证法的研究方法，包含了玉石被人类加工并赋予信息、又在自然界中慢慢发生变化的一个量变—质变—量变的历史过程。而自然界几千年来对红山古玉打上的内外部印记，也证明古玉本身与自然界发生交互作用的过程。古玉是我们今天探索、理解古人相关信息的重要物质载体，是能够区别于其它高仿赝品的，区别的技术诀窍正在于此。红山古玉的研究方法、成果及鉴赏对了解人类早期文明具有积极意义。

 

碧麟

 

The twelve measures and the six assistant methods (RNM) put forward by Mr. Ren Nan provide us one system of unique know-how to distinguish Ancient Hongshan Jade. I affirm its credibility after my studying, comparing and experiment. RNM has comprised one system itself and proven by high-tech test already. RNM, using dialectic research means, reveals a process of jade processing and imputing information by ancient people and developing historically from quantitative change to qualitative change to quantitative change. The impress both outside and inside made by nature about several thousand years on ancient Hongshan Jade shows interaction between Hongshan Jade and its environment. The Hongshan Jade is important samples of substance carrier for us to understand information of ancient people. So it can be differentiated from other fake made by modern methods. The know-how is here.

 

The research measures，achievement and appreciation of ancient Hangshan Jade are significant to understand earlier civilization of human being.

 

Jasper Unicorn

hongzhi

The twelve measures and the six assistant methods (RNM) put forward by Mr. Ren Nan provide us one system of unique know-how to distinguish Ancient Hongshan Jade. I affirm its credibility after my studying, comparing and experiment. RNM has comprised one system itself and proven by high-tech test already. RNM, using dialectic research means, reveals a process of jade processing and imputing information by ancient people and developing historically from quantitative change to qualitative change to quantitative change. The impress both outside and inside made by nature about several thousand years on ancient Hongshan Jade shows interaction between Hongshan Jade and its environment. The Hongshan Jade is important samples of substance carrier for us to understand information of ancient people. So it can be differentiated from other fake made by modern methods. The know-how is here.

 

The research measures，achievement and appreciation of ancient Hangshan Jade are significant to understand earlier civilization of human being.

 

Jasper Unicorn

Thank you for your translation of Mr RN's RNM

also if possible hoping you have a special page in English to explain RN's RNM.

 

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lcylcylcy

感悟先人们的智慧,打破传统思维,培养自己的心性,爱红山,才能开悟,才可去伪存真.

一壶居士

以下是引用lcylcylcy在2007-4-24 18:33:31的发言：
感悟先人们的智慧,打破传统思维,培养自己的心性,爱红山,才能开悟,才可去伪存真.

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