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发表于 2012-2-29 11:10:22 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 11:25 编辑

华夏是:光明之使者/龙蛇智者之苗裔/太阳神的子孙/羽蛇神的使者/何露斯的追随者

当很多当代中国人正在凡事皆以西方为标准时,当民运刘晓波之流声称中国应被西方再殖民三百年才能变成“文明国家”之刻,当西方搞双重标准以丑陋虚伪的嘴脸对中国做“战争动员”之际,西方人以及中国人自己都不知道中国的前世,今生和来世。及2012中国在玛雅及霍比印第安人所说的世代交替中注定要扮演的角色。

关掉电视,忘记教科书(由其是西方的电视和教科书),让“何露斯的战士”来告诉你人类历史不为人知的真相。

The Origin of South American deity Viracocha,

01-South American Deity Viracocha as depicted on Gate of the Sun


02-One of earliest form of Viracocha, distinguished as a fanged deity with twin serpents


03-A fanged deity found in a Zhou dynasty tomb identified as relic belong to a earlier Neolithic culture called Shijiahe culture


04-A fanged deity from Shijiahe culture


05-a human-like deity mounted on a beast, also found in the Shijiahe culture


06-The main deity of Liangzhu culture, identified as the precursor to later Taotie motif found on typical Shang-Zhou period bronze ritual vessels


07-Like human-like Shijiahe deity, the Liangzhu deity also is mounted on a beast which later become the Taotie motif


08-Taotie motif on Shang bronze ritual vessel, where the human-like figure of Liangzhu phase is removed, leaving only the beast, Taotie always appear on ritual vessels, functioned as medium for communication with Heaven. Yet, according to certain interpretation, Taotie is actually changed form of Chi You, which was used to warn people about greed, it is relevant to mention that it seems human sacrifice culture suddenly arose during Shang period, and last Shang king, according to Chinese folklore was tyrannical ruler whose Queen was possessed by evil spirit, Shang dynasty was overthrown by the Zhou (around 11th century BC), whose founding kings were able to defeat the Shang because they got the help from “immortals” who possess supernatural powers. And a group of Shang elites (as many as 500,000) vanished in Chinese history because they “went to the sea”; this led some scholars to speculate that these Shang elites ended up in Mexico. The Zhou on the other hand introduced what would later be called Confucianism to replace the Shang cultural norm which was much focused on “supernaturals”.


09-The human-like LiangZhu deity are found on many Liangzhu jade relics


10-LiangZhu jade piece depicting only the fanged beast which is mounted by the human-like deity


11-A ‘spring-autumn – warring states period bronze piece with a deity with the twin serpents


12-A deity with twin serpents, origin unknown (China)


13-Deity with twin serpents again, origin unknown


14-A human-like deity mounted on a beast, which resembles the ones from both Liangzhu and Shijiahe cultures of Southern China can also be found in the Northern Neolithic Hongshan culture


15-Human-like deity type 1 from Hongshan culture


16-Human-like deity type 2 from Hongshan culture


17-Along type 1 and type 2 deity, there is also the non-human-like Hongshan ‘bull deity’, which like human-like types, is also mounted on a beast (my take is this bull headed Hongshan deity is the original form of Chi You)


18-Neolithic cultures in China, I-Hongshan culture, V-Liangzhu culture, and Shijiahe culture would be around the area between V and IV


19-Hmong people still consider Chi You to be their ancestor




Certain link exists between South American deity Viracocha and the predominant ancient Chinese deities.

The conclusion thus far is

-Based on the evolution of its appearance, which seems to correlate with the academically given ages of these cultures, it seems Viracocha is ‘derived’ from the fanged deity of Shijiahe culture which was derived from the ‘beast’ that the human-like deity is mounted on, it seems the original fanged form of Viracocha was further ‘evolved form’ of fanged deity of Shijiahe.

The separation of the human-like deity with his beast had already happened during the earlier Liangzhu period, as the beast was already independently depicted.

It seems the human-like Liangzhu deity was also little ‘evolved’ from yet earlier forms since his eyes and mouth are rather ‘exaggerated’.

The Hongshan human-like deities on the other hand, given both they have obvious cultural connections to Liangzhu one, and they are actually more ‘human-like’, it seems they are, not only the ‘precursor’ to Liangzhu deity, but they appear to be the actual portrait of these ‘gods’, therefore they are the ‘original form’ of South American deity known as Viracocha.

-South American deity Viracocha, and the deities of Shijiahe, Liangzhu and Hongshan cultures, and later Taotie motif of Shang period are essentially the same ‘god’ or group of ‘gods’.

If such connection is established, it certainly could explain some ‘intriguing’ details like this,

In the movie “National Treasure: Book of Secrets”, Emily Appleton found some characters in the city of gold, she says “This is gonna unlock the Olmec language. It’s gonna give us incredible insight into Pre-Columbian history!”

The first three characters are Olmec, but the rest are Chinese

-It is worth to note, the Hongshan culture was the culture where Daoism and the coiled/circular dragons originated, and these cultural traits are shared with the Mayans

Mayan Tzolkin

Chinese I Ching


Hongshan serpentine figure

Mayan serpentine figure


Coiled dragon, typical of Hongshan culture

The earliest known representation of a feathered serpent in Mesoamerica has also a coiled serpent


According to South American tradition, after civilizing the continent Viracocha left South America by flying across the pacific. The above presented relics demonstrated that the origin of Viracocha can be traced back to ancient China which is indeed across the pacific.

http://itsrainmakingtime.com/2012/charlotteharrisrees2/
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:17:51 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 13:34 编辑

With regards to these "dragon family/Elders", i want to share something here.

You are right to mention Emperor Qin shihuangdi, because he was indeed contacted by "ETs" (the Chinese used to call them "Immortals/ Celestials").

The event was recorded by "Records of Grand Historian" (AKA "Shiji", the "official history"). However, due to the dogma held by the Confucian educated historians, of a disbelief towards the "supernaturals" and "unexplainables", they would not record as much as what really happened.

According to the "Shiji", right after Emperor Qin unified China, a group of 12 "Great men" wearing "foreign" clothing visited him, then Emperor Qin began to confiscate all the bronze weapons of China, the weapons were melted then casted into 12 huge statues modeled after these "Great men".

Qin's life-long quest of seeking "immortality" was not without a practical reason, these "great men" were the "Immortals/Celestials", they actual inspired Qin's obsession with seeking "immortality".

Though the conservative "official" Shiji gave "little" information, but apparently these statues did exist and they were stored in the imperial palace of subsequent Han dynasty (who inherited the Qin legacy as ruler of an unified China, often referred to as "a Golden age", the Han dynasty also established the famous "Silk Road"), and like the reign of Qin shihuangdi, the Han period was characterized by the fascination with "immortality/Immortal kingdoms/Immortals" and alchemy.

The statues were subsequently melted down and casted into bronze coins during later economic crisis by later dynasties.

But to understand a bit more about those "Great men" who paid Emperor In a visit, one has to dig into the "apocryphal" version of history.

According to Shi yogi ("Researches into Lost Records"/"Record of Gleanings" or "Forgotten Tales") written by a Taoist scholar named Wang Jia (whom according to history records was good at "making prophetic remarks"),

"Shihuangdi was obsessed with "immortals/ Immortality" and he was visited by men from the kingdom called Wan qu, the Wan qu men came by ships shaped like spiral shells that can submerged into the bottom of the ocean without wetting themselves, its called "Lun bo zhou"(lun=ripple/sink; bo=waves; zhou=ship).

They told Emperor Qin things from the distant past as if they were witnesses, they say”

"When young we traveled great distances, now we are old, we sit back and observe things beyond heaven and earth.

Our kingdom is located at Xianchi, ninety thousand Li from here, (in Chinese legends, Xianchi is where the Sun set/bath/; but also where the Celestials bath; given the name Xian chi can also mean "salt lake" it is also believed Xian chi is today's Qinghai lake, according to legend that's where the goddess "Queen mother of the west" resides, and the Chinese "Sun bird", AKA "three legged black Sun bird" was the one responsible for bringing provisions for the goddess ) where a day equals 10,000 years.


Most of the place is gloomed with clouds, when the clear day comes, the clouds are suddenly dispersed, then bright as the river and the black dragons and phoenix descend.

To keep light during the night, we burn stones from the burning mountain, its stone and soil are bright and clear, when touched, it will break into grain sized piece which would illuminate the entire hall.

During the reign of Yandi, this fire helped the people to start to cook. When the stone is thrown into the water, the boiling foams generated by it can spread miles wide.

Our kingdom is hundred thousand Li away from the mound of Xuanyuan (another name for Huangdi/yellow emperor) where Huangdi mined and casted the first ritual vessel. When Huangdi casted the Ding we went there, when Yao was born we were there. "

Shihuangdi called them as "the Immortals", and he was even more obsessed with "Immortals/ immortality" ever after.

In Daoism, there are "the Queen mother of the West" and "the duke king of the East"(during the early Shang period, on the oracle bone in      script      ion, there were mentions of "the West mother" and "the East mother"), they lead the two "immortal realms", one is the "Kunlun" faction located in the Tibetan region, one is the "East sea" faction located in the West pacific.

Not coincidentally, you have the alleged UFO base along Sino-Indian borders and the "dragon's triangle" in the west Pacific.

As for some of the "superhuman" ability that some of these "Immortals" have achieved long time ago (which we (regardless of skin colors) are destined to achieve one day as well), Shi yiji offers a hint too.

It is said the grandson of Huangdi, Zhuan xu was born with "divine quality" (he paid visits to the "immortal realm of the Eastern sea" by riding on dragon), after he had grown up to a teenage, an immortal came to him by transforming himself from a "star" to an elderly man.

The "ancients" from "Stargate" show certainly achieved ascension which is suspiciously reminiscent of the "star to man then man to star" process recorded by Shi yiji.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcwSgiSms8A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ3oybOilSE
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:18:53 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 13:32 编辑

Ancient Daoism certainly believed in the immortals (those serve the high deities are also called "feathered men") and their ability to fly, and the possibility of mortal become immortal through self-cultivation and with the help of taking certain substances.



And the "immortal realms/mountains of the east sea" was there during the reign of Zhuan Xu, then the "mountains" were gone during the time Emperor Qin. This is remindful of "Atlantis" from Stargate Atlantis.


And according to Shiji (the official history book), "The "immortal realm/mountains of the east sea" appeared as if they are in the clouds when viewed from far, but when close, it is actually under water.

The "animals" there are all gold and silver colored, so are their buildings where the immortals live"

Han dynasty depiction of "the Queen mother of west" and "the duke king of East" with their "immortal realms/mountains" that the Emperor Qin was so obsessed with.


The three legged Sun bird from ancient China is remindful of the "black feathered sun" legends of the Toltecs and North Amerindians, which is really telling people that the Sunspot is used as "stargate" by these "ETs", and according to the Toltecs; it leads to the place of "the creator".

The fleet of "returning serpent gods" are gathered around the Saturn rings and they have the Satanists paniced.

Now, “The Event” has the stargate located in Tibet and the ET leader Sofia can speak Chinese were for a reason, but many Westerners (as well as Chinese) have lost touch with the “serpent connection”.

For those who are driven by fear and think the serpent/dragon symbol equal “evil reptilians”, the truth is it originated in Shamanism; the Serpent symbolizes the spiral galaxy which essentially is torsion, and that our DNA is also touched by it.

That’s what the “twin serpents” represent, and they can be found among many ancient cultures,




China: Goddess creator Fuxi & Nuwa, half serpent half human, just like the “great ayahuasca spirit of the Amazons”, whom is btw warning the world about the Nazis and their ally the Grays.





South America: Civilizing god Viracocha, essentially the same as the ancient Chinese gods,
Original form of Viracocha vs the deity from Shijiahe culture of China


Greece: “Greek version” of Viracocha, and the legs are formed like Swastika which really represents torsion as well just like the rotating Yin/Yang symbols in Daoism.


Egypy: Isis means “she of the throne” or “queen mother”, interestingly the Chinese goddess who holds command over both the moon and the sun has the title “queen mother”, and both were “serpent worshiping” cultures.



Celtic culture: beside dragon, both ancient Celtic and Chinese cultures used this method to grow their spirituality;



this one is from ancient Hongshan cultural sphere of China,


Not coincidentally, Hongshan culture is also where Daoism and dragons originated
Hongshan headgear symbolize the process of reincarnation, just like the later Daoist hat



Finally, to counter this “Chinese-ET connection overload”, I would like people to look beyond certain paradigm

@ “In one of our groups a young woman had lost a beloved father by suicide…
http://www.edgarcayceaustralia.com/pdf02/SL0705.pdf

That is precisely why the Hopi convey this message of “the great spirit”

“It is only materialistic people who seek to make shelters. Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the great shelter of life. There is no shelter for evil.

Those who take no part in the making of world division by ideology are ready to resume life in another world, be they Black, White, Red, or Yellow race. They are all one, brothers”
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:38:19 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 13:50 编辑

Thank you very much David and Divinecosmos staff for your hard works, especially considering the back story that David's life was threatened to get sensitive information out; we really appreciate David's contribution to this world.

I think this struggle against the financial tyranny is part of the struggle between "the corn god/good" and "the debt god/bad" as Dr Joseph Farrell calls it.

One of Satanists doing is causing massive human death by fomenting never ending wars; i agree with Joseph this is a continuation of the "human sacrifice culture", which according to the Aztecs was introduced by "Devil god" and his magicians.

Within illuminati orders they are performing black magic of demonic nature, and their practice of "spirituality" actually involves "out of body" experiences and traveling through dimensions and time.

What i found very relevant to this information is that in Graham Hancock's "Ayahuasca spirit" inspired work, "Entangled", in order to fight the "evil spirit", a modern Californian girl Leoni has to travel back in time after having "out of body" experience.

This otherwise “absurd” story is what "Ayahuasca spirit" wants Hancock to tell the world. It is common in shamanism to use hallucinatory medium to communicate with “the spirit world”.

“Entangled” may seem strange to many, but I think what it reveals is actually what is going on. The struggle is not just on physical level but non-physical level as well.

That’s why there are “ET” souls reincarnated as humans, and that’s why humans have to do their part as well.

These black magicians of the modern Satanists could well be the same group that helped the “devil god/debt god” in banishing the Mayan civilizing god, Quetzalcoatl /“corn god”, after which they introduced "human sacrifice culture", of which the financial tyranny of today is really the continuation of that system.

The prophetic scriptures in Dan 2:43, Isaiah 14:9+29, 26:14, Gen6:4, Job 26:5 and Rev 13:15 describes a genetic hybridization and resurrection of the fallen angels and their offspring who are now disembodied spirits. They will once again appear like flesh and blood humans to again deceive mankind.


Non-flesh & blood entities do indeed exist; i once had a face to face encounter with a transparent "ghost" in my home when i was a teenager.

From "Ghosts of great wall"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/137351 ... ll--israeli-mermaid
We also know "ghost" can possess the living.

No doubt "fallen angels" as "disembodied spirits" are more powerful and capable than the fallen Chinese soldiers.

As for "out of body" experience, i was able to discover that during the so called "ghostly pressure" phenomenon i was able to see my room without using physical eyes, it seems my consciousness was temporarily dislocated from my physical body.

Due to my personal experiences, i have to consider the "practicality" behind the "spirituality" lessons within the Satanic circle, not only their connection to ancient "magicians of the devil", but the possibility of "demonic possession" of human flesh and the ability of non physical entities to travel back in time.

Like Joseph Farrell, Graham Hancock (after his Ayahuasca experience) too thinks that "the struggle between good and evil spirits is very real".

I can understand why David does not want to people to think in terms of "good vs. bad/us vs. them", but as long as it’s not applied to “physical realm”, i have to say, like Joseph and Hancock, i too think there is a "supernatural" factor behind the earthly dramas.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:38:45 | 只看该作者
Kerry Cassidy's use of the "Annunaki model" to explain the whereabouts of looted Chinese gold is problematic.

The basic premise of that model says humans are slave races created by planet X aliens to mine gold for them because their home world needs gold to sustain itself.

By using that model, she disregards the fact that Native Americans like the Hopis believe they are direct descendants of Pleiadian.

Unbeknownst to most, the Chinese are descendants of Pleiades too. The evidence for an extraterrestrial origin is all over the culture if one knows how to read it. And it is mirrored in the basic belief system of the ancient Chinese. An example,

A round jade Bi with a hole in the centre, it represents the basic and core Chinese belief of a "round" heaven.

The temple of heaven built by Ming dynasty in 15th century is the continuation of the early neolithic belief

(The layout of the temple is a scaled up version of a Jade Bi.)

The hole in the centre of Bi represents connection or communication with the "heaven".

Another form of ancient Chinese jade is the Jade Jue


The jade Jue really is an incomplete jade Bi, when the jade Bi ("heaven") becomes the incomplete form; its meaning is changed to "the moment of separation".

From the meaning of Jade Bi and the changed form Jade Jue, the ancient Chinese actually believed that the "heaven" is incomplete without them. Like the Native Americans, the Chinese too believed in "star ancestors" and "space brothers" and expressed the idea in their own way. Hence, the "slave race" from "annunaki model" does not ring true for these cultures.

As for Aliens from planet X, it contradicts with the Chinese belief system as well.
The reason ancient Chinese believed in a "round heaven" is the "heaven" is actually the moon which is a giant artificial object. The process of reincarnation is executed by "heaven"/moon. (I will skip the legends and artifacts which led to my conclusion)

The earth itself is an artificial creation. There is an inner civilization (whose clock is different from the surface civilization) and a web of subterranean and underwater highways and facilities linking continents.

This artificial planet, along with its artificial satellite is part of extensive system throughout the galaxy. The sunspot is used as "stargate" for traveling to other worlds.






These "ET" vessels traveling through the sun and entering this solar system are enormous and cloaked.

This "secret" of the sun being used as "stargate" is encoded in the "three legged black sun bird" legend
Of the ancient Chinese

The equivalent of the “black feathered sun” legends of the Toltec and North Amerindians.

The Chinese sun bird serves the Taoist goddess "Queen mother of the west", whose kingdom is located in Tibet and she is associated with both the moon and the inner realm.

So, “my universe” is quite different model.

As for Satanic rituals, I discovered (in a most “bizarre” way) that Satan originally come from China, that he had different name in China and was worshiped as god among the serpent gods during earlier phase of the Chinese culture. But later, a great war was fought against his faction and upon the physical killing of the beast-god, a subsequent reformation of the Chinese culture was followed, but the lingering influence of him would take another reformation and yet another great conflict/reformation to rid of his influence in China. All these conflict/reformation were aided by “ETs” or “immortals” as the ancient Chinese call them.

The beast-god once worshiped in China but later kicked out of China, would establish his power base in the West, and be called different names, among which “Satan” is the most well known.

That is why Joseph Farrell said, China&India are “adversaries” of the Satan worshipping “Babylonian banksters” since antiquity, that they are at odds with each other is really the continuation of an old conflict.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:42:56 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 13:54 编辑

Freemasons, ancient Egypt, ancient China and Knights templars are connected in strange ways

"Ben Gates: We found an engraving on the stem of a 200-year-old pipe.
Riley Poole: Owned by the Free Masons.
Abigail Chase: May I see the pipe?
Ben Gates: We don't actually have it.
Abigail Chase: Did Bigfoot take it?

Powell: [referring to the underground staircase] How do a bunch of guys with hand tools build all this?
Ben Gates: Same way they built the pyramids - and the Great Wall of China.
Riley Poole: Yeah... the aliens helped them. "

In  the National Treasure movie, when they pondered over how freemasons build the treasure pit that contains the treasures of Knights Templar, though the answer is meant to be a joke, but it was actually correct in claiming "ET influence" over these ancient cultures, i mean the Great Wall of China was built by the first emperor of China, Qin shihuangdi, which really didn't require any "ET" assistance in constructing it. But the man was indeed visited by a group of "ETs" after he had just unified  China, but he didn't refer them as "ETs", they were regarded as "Immortals" by the emperor himself.

Interestingly, the Masonic symbol consists of compasses and a carpenter's square, tools for drawing a circle and a square.



Ancient  depictions of Nuwa and Fuxi, the goddess creator and her companion who is credited with the invention of basic concepts of the I Ching (aka "the book of changes"), they often have compasses and a carpenter's square in their hands.



Ancient  Chinese believed that "the Heaven is round" and "the earth is square", those holding the compasses and a carpenter's square have the knowledge of Heaven and earth. Nuwa and Fuxi are always depicted as serpentine beings, having serpent/dragon form is a synonym for "divine" in Chinese culture.

The Temple of Heaven in Beijing was built by the Ming dynasty in the early 15th century, those round platforms represent the Heaven, and the square platform represents earth.


It  seems there is a connection between freemasons and the Chinese culture,  and i wouldn't be surprised about it, since there is a connection between Mayan and Chinese culture, and a connection between Mayan and the freemasons.

In Graham Hancock's view, the serpent is the keeper of knowledge as well, citing ancient Gnostics and how they regarded serpents differently compared to conventional Christian depiction, he said "Christianity lost its way when the Roman empire took  over". His fond for the serpents grew after his Ayahuasca experience in  the Amazon jungle where he got his inspiration for "Entangled", his latest work. And "the great Ayahuasca spirit of the Amazons" is a serpentine being as well.


This interpretation of serpents can be mirrored in the story of Cleopatra, she was never the "Sexy bombshell" which became the synonym for "seducer of men", she had a rather "ordinary" look.


Some  forces in Rome perceived the knowledge stored in the Great libary of Alexandria as "threat" the way the "oil dependent" elites of today's world would have perceived the "water powered car". That's probably why they have Egypt invaded and the libary destroyed and then kept the loot in the vault of Vatican.

As mentioned by history channel's Ancient Alien series, the creator of the Coral Castle of Florida claimed  that he knows how the ancient Egyptians build the pyramid, is a tentative evidence to the reality of how the mass being kept away from ancient lost knowledges.

Another of Hancock's contribution to this interpretation of history is his accidental discovery of the Ark of  Covenant, hide by Knights Templars in Ethiopia for centuries, and for centuries their successors protect the artifact from falling into the hands of invading European armies.

With this interpretation of the serpents, the surge of tales of how Christian knights slaying the hideous creatures called dragons in the early ADs which signifying the virtue and valor of a true Christian, (later expanded to the slaughtering of the Saracen Infidels) offers a glimpse into the psyche of "surviving serpents in the West" and why they "strive to overthrow the shackles of Christianity".

If the Christian tales about the  dragons were deemed (in the eyes of the serpents) as "demonization", then "V" and "Stargate" are just the continuation of a legacy, but also the herald of what's gonna happen, and rather "imminent", because time is a different concept for "immortals" as compared to our measure of it.  

But such upcoming event known as "the return of Quetzalcoatl" (now, 2012 is also year of the dragon in Chinese zodiac is more than a coincidence) are feverishly propagandized by the Satanists as invasion by "evil aliens".
In "V",

as well as in "Stargate",

watch how the "ET" crafts from rendlesham forest resemble the Gua'uld mothership

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident
despite  they were actually monitoring American Nuclear deployment (to prevent mankind from nuclear holocaust), they are nonetheless being demonized in  "Stargate".
And isn't it interestingly "coincidental", that the oldest of the Gua'uld 'system lord' is Yu the Great from China?

and this Chinese god-king's dwelling place is the combination of the Tibetan Potala palace and Japanese castle



which invokes all the memories about the "Kunlun" and "East Sea" factions of the "immortal realms" from Chinese legends.

As  with "The Event" (which David has noted in his previous articles), you can see they're telling half truth while twisting the other half.
The "ET" leader Sophia likes to drink tea

she ran into a Chinese pedestrian in America, yet she apologizes in Chinese

their cultural practice has "Oriental" flavor

and their "stargate" is located in Tibet



this "Oriental" flavor is shared by other Sci-Fiction shows as well,
the  "dragon headed" Minbari from "Babylon 5" and the "look alike" Vulcans from "Star trek" all dressed in Oriental style garments.



To  quote David Childress now, "So why would there be here in Copan such Asian motifs such as elephants and dragons in a place in Central America  that is so far away from China and Southeast Asia? Is there some kind of extraterrestrial connection between the Mayans and the Chinese and origin for both that comes from the stars?"
once the intimite cultural connection is established between the Mayans and the Chinese, one can see the deeper and hidden reason behind all the demonization of China and the serpent/dragons, as part of OWO elites psychological campaign in a bid to resist the tide.

like the Hopi indians, whom are descendants of the Mayans, it is very likely that the Chinese are also descended from the Pleiades. (and possibly other star systems)
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:57:18 | 只看该作者
Why ancient people envisioned something aeriform as the Heaven to be “round”? Few years ago, a Chinese author asked this question when he wrote a book titled "The Aliens are on the Moon". The book cited a petroglyph discovered on the rocks of Yin Mountains


The scholars interpret the round object above the man as the sun, thus dubbed it “sun worship petroglyph”. But the author says ancient depictions of the sun usually have sun rays whereas the “sun” in the petroglyph from Yin Mountains is just a round object.
“Sun worship” from Chengbeixi culture


He says the petroglyph is a depiction of worship for Heaven instead of the sun. Ancient oracle bone inscription for heaven was written like “a man with an oversized head/a round object above man” or “horizontal stroke(s) above man”


According to the author, horizontal stroke(s) represent land; the only land that’s above man and visibly round is the moon. According to him, this explanation would make sense to many ancient legends about a heaven which seem to have “physical attributes”.
Whether he is right or wrong, I stumbled upon certain ancient relics

The ancient pendant is carved to the shape of round, a clear sign of the “round” heaven belief, above the two “immortals” there is a round object, whatever the round object represents I too don’t think it represents the sun, if the “immortals” were interpreted as actual images of ancient visiting ETs rather than the works of imagination (which orthodox Chinese scholars say), then it’s possible the round object is the actual vessel or place where they came from. If combine Apollo 20 discovery and the hollow moon theory which indicate the moon is actually a giant extraterrestrial structure, then it indeed lend weights to the interpretation of the round object in this relic as the moon.

It’s pertinent to add that there are ancient Chinese legends speaking of “celestial rafts”, their size varies, the largest type were called “the boat hanging among the stars” or “the boat going to the moon”, the name seem to indicate they are spaceships bounded for the moon. Around 2300 BC, the huge ship would float around China every 12 years during the reign of Yao, the record say they always stop somewhere directly above waters, this attribute of it seem to suggest the Aliens have underwater facilities in both inland seas as well as oceans.

In his book "DEAD MEN'S SECRETS", author Jonathan Gray mentioned the following in chapter 27 under the title "To the moon and beyond? WERE WE ON THE MOON IN
2309 B.C.?"

“A story from this same period states that an enormous ship appeared on the sea at night with brilliant lights which were extinguished during the day. It could also sail to the moon and the stars, hence its name, ‘the ship hanging among the stars’ or ‘the boat to the moon’”

This piece of information is found in the Shi yi ji (record of gleanings). In the book, ‘the ship hanging among the stars’ is called gua xing cha (literally gua=hanging; xing=stars; cha=raft), ‘the boat to the moon’ is called guan yue cha (guan=to be linked together; yue=moon).

Here is the translation of the original passage:
“Thirty years after Yao became the sovereign, there was an enormous raft floating over the western sea, the raft has lights that shine at night which were extinguished during the day, people nearby saw the lights, waning and waxing, like stars and moon are appearing and disappearing, the raft would float routinely over the four seas, twelve years a cycle, cycle after cycle, the name for it is guan yue cha or gua xing cha, the feathered men live aboard it, the celestials gargle their nectar, the light of the sun and the moon becomes dim. There were no more recount of its appearance since the era of Yu and Xia dynasty, those who travel to the seas can still hear the incredible of it”

This is one of the surviving accounts of the mysterious “celestial rafts” mentioned in ancient Chinese texts. Such tales are often simply regarded as the works of imagination (novelist’s inventions) by orthodox scholars. However the author of Shi Yi Ji, Wang Jia (?-390AD) according to history records was a Taoist scholar who lived a secluded life on mountains, he is good at making prophetic remarks, because of such skill, he was sought after by various invading nomadic rulers and enjoyed fame among nobilities despite the fact he was forced to serve the ruling court after his previous refusals. Wang Jia was not a “novelist”; “short-novel” as orthodox scholars would call them doesn’t fit well with some tales found in the Shi Yi Ji, since things like the description of a Volcano and its eruption doesn’t seem to be the work of imagination at all. Granted, most of the tales and objects mentioned in the Shi Yi Ji seem strange indeed.

According to Shi Yi Ji, this ship appeared at the “Western sea”, the ancient name for Qinghai Lake in today’s Qinghai province, during the legendary ruler Yao’s reign, presumably around 2300 BC. The description “like stars and moon are appearing and disappearing” is both describing different effect of the lights as well as the size of the ship, which gives the observer the impression that there was a chunk of sky over the lake, thus the definition “enormous”. It seems such observation is made some distance away from the ship.

The wreck of that gigantic spaceship discovered by Apollo mission on the moon rather fits the profile of the enormous raft recorded in the Shi Yi Ji.


The term “four seas” in ancient texts may describe China itself or the boundaries of China as defined by certain waters to the four directions, therefore “Western sea” would be the westernmost definition of the “four seas”. This enormous ship would appear periodically around China, and according to the name given to it, it was a space ship bounded for the moon.

Then Shi Yi Ji goes on describing the scenes onboard, the ship is where winged celestials (feathered men) live who drink nectar instead of eating grains so they are immortal. Why would the “light of the sun and moon becomes dim”? Since the name suggesting it to be a spaceship, it’s easier to apprehend the fact the view of the sun and moon would be different from the view of them on the ground, this must have left impression for the observer whoever passed down this tale, that he must be a mortal whom for whatever reasons was allowed to board the ship for immortals.

Other records of “celestial raft” show there were some going on between man and ETs during other times.

Authored by a Western Jin dynasty writer and official Zhang Hua(232-300 AD) ,the "Bo wu zhi"(record of natural science) recount the story of the Xian Cha (celestial raft): "It is said, once upon a time the Milky Way and the sea were connected, in recent time there were people live at the seashore, every year in the August the floating raft would arrive and leave on time, there was a man with high aspiration, tall pavilions are set up on the raft, with abundant supplies, the man boarded the raft and left. For more than 10 days, stars, the moon, the sun passed by as he observed them, afterwards, the vastness made him indistinguishable of the nights and days. Another 10 days of travel, he suddenly arrived at a place where he saw many buildings which look like a city, from distance he saw weaving women in the palace, he saw a man with an Ox drinking at the waterside. Surprised, the Cowherd asked him "how did you get here?” he explained himself and asked the cowherd "what is this place?” the cowherd replied "return to visit Yan jun ping in the prefecture of Shu for answer", therefore he returned without landing. Thereafter a visit was paid to jun ping in the prefecture of Shu (today's Sichuan province of China), he told him that "there was a guest star violating the constellation Qianniu", and that's when the man paid the visit to the Milky Way"

The Song dynasty work "Tai ping guang ji"(Extensive Records of the Taiping Era) is a collection of things stretching a period from the Han dynasty(206 BC- 220 AD) to the Song dynasty(960-1279 AD), citing "Dong tian ji" it says "The Yan Zun(the same person as Yan jun ping in "Bo wu zhi") 'Xian Cha' was placed in the Linde palace of the Tang dynasty (618-907 AD), it is a metal object with the length of more than fifty chi (the measure of chi is different for different dynasties, it is 1chi=27.65cm during the Qin-Han period; 1chi=31.1cm during the Tang dynasty; 1chi=30.72cm during the Song dynasty, thus making the 'Xian Cha of Yan Zun' at least 15 meters long), its hard and it does not corrode. Li deyu (787-850 AD, Tang prime minister) cut thin branch of more than 1 chi, carved an image which often flies away and returns, it disappeared since the era of Guangming (reign of emperor Xizong of Tang dynasty), the raft then flew away as well."
Interestingly, like Wang Jia, Yan Jun Ping was also a Taoist scholar.

Maybe that’s why the female alien body recovered by Apollo mission resembles “Asiatic/Mongoloid”?
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 13:57:35 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 14:13 编辑

The Apollo 20 is still debated, but here is a twist to its validity

The official website of Chinese lunar exploration program (CLEP) recently (08/12/09) cited an article discussing the possibility of the secret mission conducted by America's Apollo 20 lunar mission, titled "Did the Apollo 20 find the wreckage of a gigantic spaceship on the Moon?"

Cited images by the article,



It’s interesting that the Chinese government branch for lunar mission is actually interested in some conspiracy story.

What this demonstrates i believe is that the Chinese know that something "artificial" exist on the moon after their first lunar orbiter Chang'e 1 finished surveying the moon.

This is the only logical explanation for the puzzle why should a genuine government branch like the CLEP be bothered to have this "conspiracy crap" on their website at all?

But this is not the only interesting "anomalies" i notice from the Chinese.

Shortly after the 60th anniversary of the founding of PRC, the PLAAF celebrated its own 60th anniversary on 6th November during which the commander of the PLAAF Xu Qiliang made a speech to audiences including foreign military guests in which the following speech is particularly interesting to me

"The story of Chang'e is well-known to the Chinese, for hundreds of years the Chinese have celebrated the Moon Festival during which they wish for peace and prosperity. I think if Armstrong knew this story, he would possibly pay a visit to the Moon palace"

Maybe the general is just acting lunatic in assuming the possibility of the existence of such "moon palace" of which supposedly exists only in traditional myth. But how can a real astronaut visit some fictional "moon palace"?

As far as im concerned the CLEP is acting exactly the same when their website takes some "spaceship wreckage on the moon conspiracy crap" to the front page.

Unless, they do believe that something "artificial" can be found on the moon. And the "anomalies" only popped up after their Chang'e 1 orbiter completed its mission.
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 14:14:34 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 14:16 编辑

Did vice president Joe Biden of America meet with ET representatives in the Chinese city of Chengdu last year to discuss "disclosure"?

The official explanation offered by the US delegation says the reason for Biden's visit to Chengdu is because "it is a very economically dynamic city". But this sounds little dubious to me.

So i wondered "was there a hidden agenda behind his Chengdu trip?"

Then i remembered David Wilcock's article reported that during the 2011 January meeting between visiting Chinese leader and American president Obama, a human ET representative came with the Chinese delegation and he held secret meeting with vice president Joe Biden. This story supprised a Chinese commenter, then the moderator told him that "in case American government fails to disclose the reality of ETs, the Chinese are going to formally announce this anyway" (something like that)

If this piece of information from DW is trustworthy, then i think it is only appropriate for Biden to hold a meeting with ET representatives again when he was in China.

Next question would be "is there any thing at all to suggest the city of Chengdu has anything to do with ET presence?"

Let's go back in time to see anything "strange" might be there around this part of China.

-Few thousand years ago, Chengdu was the home to mysterious Sanxingdui and Jinsha cultures. The local "Shu cultures"(ancient name for the region, today's Sichuan province of China) have distinct cultural connection to the Chinese cultures, yet they are very distinct from typical Chinese cultures that they exhibit distinct foreign elements, for example

this Sanxingdui deity has been identified with Egyptian deity Bes

Sanxingdui is located at 30°N, in an alignment with the great pyramids of Egypt and the Mayan culture.
As matter of fact, the name Sanxingdui means "three stars mound", the mounds are lined in a southwest fashion like the "orion's belt".

This strange Eyptian connection have led some speculation that the bronze hawk head found in Sanxingdui is a representation of the Egyptian god Horus.


And that the strange eye shaped object found in the Jinsha culture (Sanxingdui's sister culture) is "the eye of Horus"


Westerners usually don't accept the notion that there exists a cultural connection between ancient Asiatics and the Americas, let alone a possible Egyptian-Chinese connection.

But once one look at serpent/dragon cultures of the ancient world as something that is not "coincidental" but there is a "connectedness" between these cultures across the globe.

But there is also the mysterious "celestial raft" connection with this region of China (see the part about a Taoist master named Yan Zun who is based in Chengdu and he knows everything about outgoing spacefaring "celestial rafts"
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1219578/pg26

The notion of a secret Egyptian-Chinese connection must sound preposterous most. Even to the brilliant Richard Hoagland.
"Red Ice Radio - Richard C. Hoagland - Comet Elenin, Norway Attack & The Messengers of Horus"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0dr1NyEPk
(@0:55:07-0:56:10)

During world war II, the United States Airforce flew many missions across the Himalayan mountain ranges between India and China, in order to supply the Chinese armies with food and war materials. During one of these missions across so-called 'dead mans alley' one of the pilots, James Gaussman, had the misfortune to have trouble with his aircraft. One of the engines started cutting out and this could be a terrifying experience in this type of country, where the normal weather conditions were such that if you tried to fly above the mountains you encountered icing conditions, and between the mountains you were met with thick fog and cloud. Gaussman figured that the fuel lines of the aircraft were freezing up and, although it was extremely dangerous, he had no option but to descend to a lower altitude. The engines began to run smoothly again and the aircraft was flown in a hazardous zig-zag fashion through the mountain tops. A rough flight pattern was carried out that would return him to his base in Assam, India. In his report to an intelligence officer he said, "i banked to avoid a mountain and we came out over a level valley. Directly below was a gigantic white pyramid. It looked like something out of a fairy tale. It was encased in shimmering white. This could have been metal, or some sort of stone. It was pure white on all sides. The remarkable thing was the capstone, a huge piece of jewel-like material that could have been crystal. There was no way we could have landed, although we wanted to. We were struck by the immensity of the thing."
Gaussman encircled the pyramid three times then continued his hair-raising flight towards Assam. He finally sighted the Brahmaputra river below his plane, from which he was able to ascertain his position, and eventually landed at his home base none the worse for wear. He believes that the world will be amazed if this pyramid is ever found.
"There was nothing around it", he said, "just a big pyramid sitting out in the wilderness. I figure it was extremely old. Who built it? Why was it built? What's on the inside?"

-Nexus Magazine 1992 "Pyramids of China".

An Egyptian style pyramid is found hidden in the Himalayan region?


Now let's call this "strange" connection "George Lucas Saga",
You know, he has Indiana Jones chasing after Nazis whom were after ancient "ET" relics, and then the Jedi chasing after the Sith (Seth).

Seth-archenemy of Horus
/Satan/Saturn/Moloch/Baal/Devil-god/
Chi You-archenemy of Huangdi




"the real name for the Rothschilds is Ba'al" - Benjamin Fulford
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I96EdsjaG4
@ 3:08-3:20

补充内容 (2012-4-3 11:17):
bauer bot ba'al,  a mistake, but the satanic association retains
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-2-29 14:16:57 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 昊 于 2012-2-29 16:08 编辑

Like the worldwide serpent/dragon presence in ancient cultures, the bull headed/horned deities can be found in ancient cultures that supposedly had no any connections. But what if the bull headed creatures (along with their ally the Giants) acutally existed?

Unbeknownst to Westerners, the earliest bull headed deity can be traced back to China's Hongshan culture, a culture that is intimately related to Mayan cultures.
http://itsrainmakingtime.com/2012/charlotteharrisrees2/
The ancient Chinese, the Mayans and the Incas were connected, they all have legends about the conflict with the Giants.

Human-like deity type 1 from Hongshan culture (origin form of Viracocha/Quetzalcoatl)

Human-like deity type 2 from Hongshan culture (origin form of Viracocha/Quetzalcoatl)

Along with type 1 and type 2 deity, there is also the non-human-like Hongshan 'bull deity' (origin form of Chi You)


The Chinese civilization was founded by Huangdi (with the help of "immortals" from Kunlun mountain which is located in Tibet and the Himalayas) after his forces decisively defeated Chi You in the epic battle of Zhuolu.
According to the Chinese mythological account Shan Hai Jing, Chi You, with the Giants, Guryeos and evil spirits, rebelled against Huang Di at Zhuolu plains. Both sides used magical powers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Zhuolu

A modern statue and Han dynasty depiction of Huangdi


Certain record says the sword of Xuanyuan (another name for Huangdi) can only be mastered by Huangdi, the sword will automatically strike at enemy troops and dealt them great damages.

Modern rendering of Chi You and Han depiction of Chi You and the conflict with Chi You




Ancient Chinese folk dance during the ceremony to honor Huangdi, the villagers wear masks mimicing demons, in memory of those warriors of Huangdi who helped him to defeat Chi You by infiltrating Chi You's ranks by disguising themselves as demons.




A modern rendering of the epic battle of Zhuolu


According to legend, Chi You had a bronze head with metal foreheads. He had 4 eyes and 6 arms, wielding terrible sharp weapons in every hand. His head was that of a bull with two horns, but the body was that of a human. He is said to have been unbelievably fierce, and to have had 81 brothers. Historical sources often described him as 'cruel and greedy', as well as 'tyrannical'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_You

Chi You would be called Satan in the West. But before permenantly settling himself down in the West, the "devil-god" would come back to China once more.
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